RNAC · Cartesian Therapeutics Inc. Common Stock
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| Timothy A. Springer Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 8,646,285 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Hoge Elizabeth 10% Owner | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 5,313,261 Shares held | 4/2/2026 | View profile |
| Kalayoglu Murat Director | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 5,313,261 Shares held | 4/2/2026 | View profile |
| TRABER PETER G Chief Medical Officer | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 451,826 Shares held | 9/25/2023 | View profile |
| Brunn Carsten President and CEO | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 323,530 Shares held | 1/6/2026 | View profile |
| Johnston Lloyd P. Chief Operations Officer | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 265,515 Shares held | 1/5/2023 | View profile |
| Kishimoto Takashi Kei Chief Scientific Officer | ▼ Sell | Gift | 225,316 Shares held | 5/31/2023 | View profile |
| Sallin Aymeric Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 Shares held | 1/2/2024 | View profile |
| Davis Blaine Chief Financial Officer | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 121,220 Shares held | 1/6/2026 | View profile |
| English Emily SVP, Head of Manufacturing | ▲ Buy | Grant | 94,226 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Tan Kevin Chief Financial Officer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 77,000 Shares held | 1/3/2022 | View profile |
| Jewell Christopher M Chief Scientific Officer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 62,490 Shares held | 1/10/2025 | View profile |
| Kurtoglu Metin Chief Operating Officer | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 62,258 Shares held | 1/6/2025 | View profile |
| Miljkovic Milos Chief Medical Officer | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 58,820 Shares held | 1/6/2026 | View profile |
| Timothy C. Barabe Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 56,966 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Singer Michael Director | ▼ Sell | Gift | 49,578 Shares held | 3/13/2026 | View profile |
| Carrie Smith Cox Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 15,629 Shares held | 1/2/2025 | View profile |
| ZENNER PATRICK J Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 12,974 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| DeSilva Nishan M Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 11,366 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Malik Kemal Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 11,133 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Seymour June Ann Chief Accounting Officer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 6,500 Shares held | 1/2/2026 | View profile |
| Bot Adrian Ion Director | ▲ Buy | Grant | 5,800 Shares held | 12/16/2025 | View profile |
Transaction History
| Hoge Elizabeth | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 758,001 | — | 4/2/2026 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 758,001 | — | 4/2/2026 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Gift | 6,555 | $0 | 3/13/2026 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 23,766 | $162K | 1/6/2026 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 3,573 | $24K | 1/6/2026 |
| Davis Blaine | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 10,591 | $72K | 1/6/2026 |
| DeSilva Nishan M | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▲ Buy | Grant | 143,200 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Malik Kemal | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▲ Buy | Grant | 27,000 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| ZENNER PATRICK J | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Seymour June Ann | ▲ Buy | Grant | 6,500 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Davis Blaine | ▲ Buy | Grant | 37,000 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Timothy C. Barabe | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Grant | 24,000 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2026 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,500 | $25K | 12/30/2025 |
| Bot Adrian Ion | ▲ Buy | Grant | 5,800 | $0 | 12/16/2025 |
| Timothy C. Barabe | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 30,000 | $206K | 12/4/2025 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,500 | $25K | 11/28/2025 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Gift | 20,000 | $0 | 11/18/2025 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,500 | $25K | 5/12/2025 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,500 | $25K | 4/15/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 6,412 | $69K | 4/11/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 36,338 | $391K | 4/11/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 7,966 | $83K | 4/10/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 609 | $7K | 4/10/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 45,144 | $471K | 4/10/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 3,451 | $38K | 4/10/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 7,342 | $69K | 4/9/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 31 | $308 | 4/9/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 178 | $2K | 4/9/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 41,604 | $392K | 4/9/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 54,889 | $856K | 3/20/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 20,234 | $303K | 3/19/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 14,740 | $213K | 3/18/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 4,022 | $72K | 1/14/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 7,962 | $134K | 1/13/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 8,983 | $160K | 1/13/2025 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 9,000 | $29K | 1/10/2025 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 1,286 | $22K | 1/6/2025 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 8,708 | $147K | 1/6/2025 |
| English Emily | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 906 | $15K | 1/6/2025 |
| Davis Blaine | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 4,028 | $68K | 1/6/2025 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 2,458 | $41K | 1/6/2025 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 948 | $16K | 1/6/2025 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 1,264 | $21K | 1/3/2025 |
| English Emily | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 891 | $15K | 1/3/2025 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 8,563 | $143K | 1/3/2025 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 932 | $16K | 1/3/2025 |
| Davis Blaine | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 3,961 | $66K | 1/3/2025 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 2,417 | $40K | 1/3/2025 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| ZENNER PATRICK J | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Davis Blaine | ▲ Buy | Grant | 22,000 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Carrie Smith Cox | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▲ Buy | Grant | 19,000 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Malik Kemal | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Grant | 16,100 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Timothy C. Barabe | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Grant | 16,100 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Grant | 16,100 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| DeSilva Nishan M | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,600 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▲ Buy | Grant | 57,500 | $0 | 1/2/2025 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Gift | 20,000 | $0 | 12/26/2024 |
| English Emily | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,650 | $25K | 12/26/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 5,181 | $98K | 12/23/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 21,800 | $413K | 12/20/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 10,529 | $193K | 12/19/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 3,376 | $64K | 12/19/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 11,303 | $197K | 12/19/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 2,901 | $4K | 12/10/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 2,901 | $71K | 12/10/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 6,224 | $157K | 12/9/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 10,763 | $15K | 12/9/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 4,539 | $117K | 12/9/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 32,789 | $547K | 11/21/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 32,789 | $46K | 11/21/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 5,600 | $97K | 11/20/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 14,000 | $45K | 11/20/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 5,700 | $8K | 11/20/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 100 | $2K | 11/20/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 200 | $282 | 11/19/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 200 | $4K | 11/19/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Gift | 28,821 | $0 | 11/19/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 17,728 | $329K | 11/18/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 34,400 | $49K | 11/18/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 16,672 | $303K | 11/18/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 38,114 | $684K | 11/18/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 20,181 | $372K | 11/18/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 22,068 | $31K | 11/15/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 16,065 | $52K | 11/15/2024 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 20,000 | $65K | 11/15/2024 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 20,000 | $343K | 11/15/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 22,068 | $379K | 11/15/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 277,246 | $4.7M | 11/15/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 16,065 | $274K | 11/15/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 4,000 | $68K | 11/14/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 36,050 | $116K | 11/14/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 18,550 | $303K | 11/14/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 17,500 | $298K | 11/14/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 74,157 | $1.2M | 11/14/2024 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 35,000 | $113K | 11/14/2024 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 35,000 | $565K | 11/14/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 21,900 | $358K | 11/14/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 22,242 | $377K | 11/14/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 25,900 | $37K | 11/14/2024 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,518,373 | — | 10/11/2024 |
| Hoge Elizabeth | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,518,373 | — | 10/11/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 48,880 | $1.1M | 10/4/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 16,650 | $392K | 10/4/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 4,879 | $117K | 10/4/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 9,892 | $211K | 10/4/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 21,278 | $451K | 10/3/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 29,847 | $545K | 10/3/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 10,249 | $195K | 10/3/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 50,489 | $1.0M | 10/3/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 8,043 | $176K | 10/3/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 5,514 | $96K | 10/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▼ Sell | Other | 1,801,314 | — | 10/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▼ Sell | Other | 317,879 | — | 10/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▼ Sell | Other | 2,119,193 | — | 10/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 721,361 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,307 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,307 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,636,832 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,636,832 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 721,361 | — | 9/25/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 8,016 | $102K | 8/12/2024 |
| Timothy C. Barabe | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 7,500 | $95K | 8/12/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 1,307 | $26K | 7/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 1,636,832 | $32.7M | 7/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 721,361 | $14.4M | 7/2/2024 |
| Malik Kemal | ▲ Buy | Grant | 5,933 | $0 | 7/1/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 110,151 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 377,208 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 55,746 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 7,005 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 94,568 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 94,568 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 491,853 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 2,926,764 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 123,925 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 826,169 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 14,535 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 24,785 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 4,130,846 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Hoge Elizabeth | ▼ Sell | Other | 491,853 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Hoge Elizabeth | ▼ Sell | Other | 2,926,764 | — | 4/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Option Exercise | 1,970,443 | $2.9M | 3/26/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 800 | $488 | 3/18/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 19,044 | $11K | 3/18/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 1,200 | $672 | 3/15/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 537,500 | $315K | 3/15/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 648,372 | $352K | 3/14/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 2,000 | $1K | 3/14/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 3,200 | $2K | 3/13/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 1,200 | $735 | 3/12/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 1,200 | $785 | 3/11/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 4,800 | $3K | 3/8/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 2,400 | $2K | 2/7/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 800 | $520 | 2/6/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Open Market | 800 | $552 | 1/17/2024 |
| Kurtoglu Metin | ▲ Buy | Grant | 1,531,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Miljkovic Milos | ▲ Buy | Grant | 548,200 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| DeSilva Nishan M | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| ZENNER PATRICK J | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Carrie Smith Cox | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Timothy C. Barabe | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Sallin Aymeric | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▲ Buy | Grant | 4,654,100 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Grant | 178,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Davis Blaine | ▲ Buy | Grant | 2,424,000 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Jewell Christopher M | ▲ Buy | Grant | 778,200 | $0 | 1/2/2024 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 123,925 | $50.0M | 11/15/2023 |
| Timothy A. Springer | ▲ Buy | Grant | 24,785 | $10.0M | 11/15/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 49,555 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 29,212 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▲ Buy | Grant | 110,123 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▼ Sell | Other | 3,303,699 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Kalayoglu Murat | ▲ Buy | Grant | 257,739 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Other | 282,800 | $583K | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 7,616 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Other | 13,600 | $28K | 11/13/2023 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Other | 55,000 | $113K | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 197,663 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Other | 169,725 | $350K | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 3,670 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| Singer Michael | ▼ Sell | Other | 49,555 | $0 | 11/13/2023 |
| TRABER PETER G | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 705 | $747 | 9/25/2023 |
| Brunn Carsten | ▼ Sell | Open Market | 2,932 | $3K | 9/25/2023 |
| Kishimoto Takashi Kei | ▼ Sell | Gift | 26,500 | $0 | 5/31/2023 |
| Kishimoto Takashi Kei | ▼ Sell | Gift | 26,500 | $0 | 5/31/2023 |
| Kishimoto Takashi Kei | ▼ Sell | Gift | 43,000 | $0 | 5/30/2023 |
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September 29, 2026
RNAC Presents New Retreatment Data for Descartes-08 at MGFA Session
Cartesian Therapeutics shared additional retreatment data for its lead candidate Descartes-08 in patients with generalized myasthenia gravis. The results were presented at the MGFA scientific session of the 2026 AANEM annual meeting. This update adds to the company's clinical development information and may influence future regulatory discussions.
RNAC Presents New Retreatment Data for Descartes-08 at MGFA Session. Cartesian Therapeutics shared additional retreatment data for its lead candidate Descartes-08 in patients with generalized myasthenia gravis. The results were presented at the MGFA scientific session of the 2026 AANEM annual meeting. This update adds to the company's clinical development information and may influence future regulatory discussions.